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The Bullshit business

11/19/2007 by simoncollister 2 Comments

Doing some research for a potential client meeting and I came across this gem:

"To get real, marketing has
to get out of the bullshit business. And it can’t do that while it
isn’t touching customers. To touch customers, marketing has to solve a
political problem with sales, which is the main corporate organ tasked
with touching customers directly. As I said in that last link, threre’s
a good reason why VPs of Sales & Marketing tend to come from Sales."

Thank you, Doc Searls.

Filed Under: Doc Searls, social media, Web 2.0

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  1. Doc Searls says

    11/26/2007 at 13:12

    You’re welcome.
    Is it possible for marketing to have *more* customer interaction, and to be *more* of a customer advocate, than sales?
    If so, is it still “marketing”?
    Just wondering.
    Best,
    Doc

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  2. Simon Collister says

    11/27/2007 at 09:29

    Hi Doc. Thanks for stopping by.
    Good question. I suppose the answer is it’s possible for marekting to have a greater interaction with the consumer, but then there comes a point where the function stops becoming marketing.
    In fact, is it fair to say that given the internet-enabled move for almost anyone within the company to reach out to individual customers, there will come a point when everybody working for the firm will have a marketing/PR role, a sales role, a new biz role etc etc?
    I’d be interested to see where you think PR fits into the picture. Not PR as marketing communications but as a tool to represent (honestly and openly) the company to the public and vice-versa.
    Ironically,the latter PR function role is one of the founding practices in PR theory – except some parts of the industry also seem to have got lost in the Bullshit Business somewhere along the line!

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