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Stuart Bruce - Wolfstar

The problem is that there are fundamental differences between the cultures, poltical processes and party systems in the UK and US.

Simply devolving campaign local 'activity' wouldn't work in the UK. Firstly, because it has always largely been like that anyway. Secondly it ignores the whole 'policy' issue. The Democrats don't have a platform/manifesto in the same way that the Labour Party does. It is much more focussed around the individual - the Primaries are where the presidential wannabes set out their stall. Labour has a complex process to 'involve' members, but it is the tension between setting policy centrally and agreeing it at the grassroots that is at the heart of many of the problems. That tension doesn't exist at the same level in the US.

Mark Hanson

Stuart is quite correct, although I think you'll see the Party respond more to where the audiences are congregating, especially online.

This will weaken the conventional constituency-based structure but not replace it.

Simon - get blogging again!!

Caroline

Really interested in your take on 'top down' and 'bottom up' - you are taking it wider but on a same theme as asymmetric vs symmetric pr I think.
Your relationship with CIPR feels like you are at the receiving end of an asymmetrical organisation which is feeding you what it thinks you need and persuading you it's good.
Your listing of what you think CIPR offers is too lightweight. We don't need CIPR for cheap room hire. What Obama offers is figurehead leadership (the sort that Max Clifford is maybe filling in UK PR because of the lack of alternative)and that's what CIPR should be about. Leadership at the top driven by and accountable to us at the bottom. Its agenda should be about PR issues not OTT buildings and income generation. I wonder if the structure is a bit at fault. A one year Chair who has a job to do at the same time is a big ask.

Simon Collister

Interesting questions, Caroline. I musta dmit - I would definitely agree. But as valuable as 'figurehead leadership' is, will it retain the same value in the future we we may all be living a much more flattened, non-hierarchical, networked world?

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