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Ethan Bauley

As someone with a well-worn copy of "The Wealth of Networks", I agree that few can compete with Benkler, but I'm sure Shirky could if that was his intention. I skimmed some of HCE but it looked more "Tipping Point" than "Theory of the Firm" so I haven't given it a chance. But contextually, it seems like that result was intentional ;-)

Still, there's no doubt that Shirky is brilliant and his blog posts (esp the ~2002 one on Power Laws) are essential.

I just picked up a book about social capital called "Brokerage and Closure" by Ronald Burt that I'm looking forward to investigating.

Thanks for the great links...

Tom Murphy

Simon,

YES! I too bought Clay's book with great expectations. I've read a lot of Clay's work online, I've been impressed watching videos of him online and the book is pants :-)

Reading it I could feel my hackles rising. He takes an exception (the whole mobile phone story) and builds an argument that it is indicative of the fundamental change in the way we live. Please.

I found the entire book - which I ended up skimming - facile. It seems that "debate" on the online environment is following the lead of polarised US politics. You take the facts and build them any way you want...

It's rather annoying. IMHO

Now they're claiming new media was behind the Brand/Ross episode - more rubbish.

TM

Simon Collister

Hi Ethan - thanks for stopping by. I suspect you're right re. The Tipping Point comparison. It's almost as if HCE doesn't do Shirky justice. You rightly point out a lot of the chapters seem based on earlier (some much earlier) blog posts.

Tom - Glad to know it isn't just me and that I'm in good company! I also agree re. building an argument out of the facts of one instance. For example, the VOTF case study was held to be the first time a social movement became built out of the connectedness of the Internet. No other possibilities (or indeed whether it was *the first time*) were considered or even explored to explain the phenomenon.

Accepting dubious or unsubstantiated argumetns as normative is potentially dangerous territory.

Alex

I hear you. I got 50% through. Just wasn't doing it for me for same reasons as you outline. It also didn't have any of the practical utility something like Groundswell (e.g.) has.

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