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David Phillips

Simon, One thing I am sure about is that monitoring, measuring and evaluating the reflections and interactions among 1.1 billion people who, from time to time and for a range of reasons through a myriad of online communication channels and then mostly only of interest to a few friends, is probably difficult. Any one who has the magic bullet is probably riding a magic carpet over a midden of bullshit.

The ROI of online PR is just nonsense. The very existance of the long tail of online presence means that this is not an investment issue at all (even if we could get some idea of value). Online content is an asset. Measuring assets is not easy when they are as intangible and wiki entries, blog posts or a giggle in Facebook. But asset evaluation is much more realistic and the change and online campaign makes to the asset base of the company is useful.

The next question is the effectiveness of the organisation to generate return on assets - including the online asset.

Simon Collister

Thanks for your thoughts, David. I appreciate what you're saying but I hoped I was rather talking about looking at a more general ROI rather than ROI of PR specifically.

I mean, we're no longer doing PR as it was so wwe can no longer measure PR as it was, can we?

How then do we measure assets? My point was only that as social sites are driven by users, any measurement - of assets, whatever - needs to start after the users have started shaping the site.

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